I visited the worship central website this morning. I occasionally do, they do a free worship song each month. Anyone in their advert for a new season of events, they had the line 'we are passionate about bringing in great theologians and thinkers' and the image that went with this was Nicky Gumbel. Ashgate are currently doing a Great Theologians Series, so far there are books on Anslem, Athanasius, John Owen, Karl Barth, Thomas Aquinas and forthcoming there will be one on John Calvin (written by Steve Holmes). Perhaps I should submit a proposal for one on Nicky Gumbel. I'm being a little rude, but I am also sad that there are some who think Nicky Gumbel is a great theologian and Questions for Life is a great theological book. Don't get me started on his little book on the Trinity! We can do better.
Gumble isn't a theologian at all. If anything, he is a teacher and an evangelist...or at least that would be the intention. I'd hope even he wouldn't claim to be a theologian.
Posted by: ash | December 18, 2007 at 01:58 PM
Ash, do you claim to be a theologian then? Aren't all Christians supposed to be theologians? If you write a book about God and life, you are certainly attempting to be a theologian. Whether he is great or not is a matter of opinion. I'm not a big fan either. I can't claim to be a "great" theologian myself but this sounds like theological snobbery. He's certainly more accessible to the average church goer than Barth! (great though he is).
Posted by: Tim | December 20, 2007 at 10:14 AM
Yes, it probably is theological snobbery. I don't see why that is a problem. There is a huge difference between the theological ability of Gumble and Barth. Should I pretend they are intellectual equals for the sake of charity? My answer is no.
I am afraid I do distinguish between academic theologians, and amateur theologians. I don't think being a church minister makes you a theologian, anymore than being a theologian makes you a church minister. Of course it is possible to be both, but not without preparation.
I do not think you can claim to be a theologian if you have never studied theology in any other setting than as part of ministerial training (certainly not in this century). Similarly, you could have a PhD in theology from Oxford and you still wouldn't be a priest.
Posted by: ash | December 20, 2007 at 06:40 PM
Hi, Im John from Melbourne.
Out of curiosity I attended an Alpha course in my local church. Essentially it was religion for the simple minded.
Nicky Gumbel is not a great theologian it any sense whatsoever. There is not even a hint of any esoteric understanding in his work.
He is a promoter of the self-serving childish mommy-daddy "creator" god of conventional exoteric religion---the parental deity. This reference sums up the limitations of such a "god".
http://www.aboutadidam.org/readings/parental_deity/index.html
Posted by: John | December 21, 2007 at 02:38 AM
I agree that Nicky Gumbel is not a great theologian, but maybe he is a great thinker.
But who are we to judge? Whatever you think of Alpha, it has spread around the globe. There is surely some thinking of merit in it?
Posted by: Nick | December 29, 2007 at 11:49 PM
Sounds a bit pompous and condescending TBH. Is this your best example of celebrating the good? YOU can do better.
Posted by: Tom | January 09, 2008 at 10:41 PM
I am astounded at the christians on the net who feel obliged to review the work of other christians and you've got to wonder what is achieved by it
If you blokes are christians and you have a passion for theology, more power to you but why waste energy on such a meaningless past time as chritisism when you could be helping some ones' life and if you are considering having a go at me it's just a shame that you are hiding behind a computor.Get a life and help change a hurting world. You're better than this.
Posted by: Rob | May 12, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Over 3 million peopl in the UK have done the Alpha Course, lives have been changed, for the better through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. You are on very thin ice to criticise such a good thing. How are you getting on with the great commision then?
Posted by: Dave Morton | May 21, 2008 at 09:22 PM