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February 20, 2013

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Ash

Thanks for this, Andy. I read a short extract from this which Maggi tweeted this week, and have ordered a copy.

I was at a Quaker event when I got the news of the General Synod's vote, and I couldn't decide whether I was more angry or upset. It is a difficult thing to respond to.

My initial response was to withdraw from Eucharistic communion within the Church. Because the Eucharist seems to be the main, visible location in which episcopal ministry is exercised in the CofE. You're confirmed by a Bishop, and then you can take part in the Eucharist (or, more recently, Bishops may grant permission for children to be admitted pre-confirmation, and set whatever limits on this they see fit). Bishops determine who can serve communion alongside the president. Bishops may excommunicate.

So it seemed to me that excommunicating myself, as it were, might be the only form of protest I could make. Since the vote, I have taken communion only once in an Anglican church (Ash Wednesday), when the president was a female priest.

It is a flawed protest, and a painful one, but one I think is necessary.

Gerald Bray

Thanks for this post. I read the book and had a somewhat different reaction. Maggi Dawn (like other women who share her views) is strong on the hurt that women have supposedly suffered, but the problem is that such claims are anecdotal and seldom (if ever) verified. You have to take their word for it, and it is highly subjective. In fact, it is not the women who are suffering but the opponents of women's ordination, who have been systematically marginalized and now risk being excluded altogether. the appalling attack on Dr Philip Giddings, chairman of the House of Laity in General Synod, who voted against the proposed legislation (even though he is in favour of women bishops in principle) shows more clearly than anything that all the talk about being fair and showing grace to the minority is nonsense. There is a real danger that when these women get want they want they will exact revenge on all those who have opposed them, claiming their own sense of victimhood as their justification. This is the real danger.

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