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June 02, 2006

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ash

I think this is the direction my thinking is taking too: that youthworkers are to be fascilitators, enablers and maybe co-ordinators; but not schedule managers, entertainers or activity-makers. In many ways, this might actually mean we need to employ youth workers for longer hours so that they can spend more time with and enabling, equipping and encouraging others.

As I touched upon before, when other people are enabled to get involved with young people, it dramatically challenges everyone's paradigm. Younger people realise that elderly people aren't all uncool and moany, and elderly people realise young people aren't all disrespectful and rude. It is a process of de-alienation, and it certainly isn't going to be a smooth ride the whole way. But I'm begining to think it is essential.

Pete Lev

Totally with you on this.

Ali Campbell

I agree with the vision and it is about what we are called to be as the whole church - the wider question that it raises for me is "what are church leaders for?" not just in the context of youth ministry, but any ministry . . . building up the body for works of service seem to be the thing - but if a youth worker, passionate about equipping others is led by a church leader who can't (or won't) let go of stuff that HE is overseeing it creates tension. It isn't just about whether the focus of ministry is entertainment or programs, but the role of a "key" worker in any given area of ministry . . . I've seen it work (in terms of youth ministry) where a youth worker has been in post for 5+ years and devloped teams, parents, the church . . . if only youth workers hung about in one place for longer to see that happen more often.

youthworkertim

"Ali Campbell said "...if only youth workers hung about in one place for longer to see that happen more often."

Agree...but the reality of a paid job in youth ministry is that not many churches are going to fork out money for someone to do a 'equipping/enabling/empowering' type job! In over ten years of being in 'paid' youth ministry I am yet to come across a church in the UK which is looking for a youth ministry team leader type person, as opposed to a frontline youth worker/minister! I am sure these posts exist but they are proly few and far between.

Ali Campbell

I did it in my last job, and, if youth ministry is seen by some as on a par with church leadership - what is the role of a church leader if not to "equip people for works of service?" If the fruit is there, no one is going to ask you, "and why aren't you doing all the face to face youth work?" Why aren't church leaders leading every house group? Because they physically can't . . .

Richard passmore

kind of with you on this but wonder if this kind of re configuing of chucrch can come from understanding or within. is something that needs to be modelled and caught. remember christ brought change/redemption when crucified outside the city walls. may also want to look at the simplechurch post on children.

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